AeroFly 5 und 3D-Grafikkarten

[Jürgen N.]

Hallo Jürgen,

Im Wikipedia habe ich folgendes zur Einteilung der Serien gefunden:

# HD 42x0: IGP
# HD 43x0: Low-End
# HD 45x0/46x0: Mainstream
# HD 47x0/48x0: Performance
# HD 48x0 X2: High-End (Modelle mit zwei GPUs auf einer Karte)

# HD 5450 und 5550: Low-End
# HD 5570 und 5670: Mainstream
# HD 57xx und 5830: Performance
# HD 5850/70 und 5970: High-End

# HD 68xx: Performance
# HD 69xx: High-End
.........
Gruss Georg

Ich möchte nochmals auf das Thema zurückkommen.
Grund: ich musste meinen PC als Garantiefall ersetzen.
Nu habe ich eine "ATI ASUS 6850" Karte drin. Und bin begeistert!
Frage:
was bedeuten eigentlich diese "4xxx" "5xxx" "6xxx" Gruppen?
Sind das "Preisklassen"? "Leistungsklassen" oder?
Wozu dieser (unübersichtliche) Aufwand?
Mit Dank und Gruss
Jürgen

[Nordland]

Hallo Jürgen

Das sind die Verschiedenen Grafikkarten Generationen.
Wie bei Nvidia (Geforce 7,8,9 Serie usw.)
Die zweite stelle (HD68xx) gibt die Leistungsklasse an.

Im Falle der HD6800 Serie kann man aber von einem Rebranding sprechen.Da die Leistung teils auf höhe der HD5800 Serie liegt.



Mfg
Sven

[Jürgen N.]

Danke!
Also der Unterschied von früher "5700" zu neu "6850" ist deutlich.
Gruss Jürgen

[bluelevel]

Hallo,

ich habe meinem Rechner gerade eine neue Radeon HD 6870 Grafikkarte spendiert, nun funktioniert Aerofly jedoch überhaupt nicht mehr! Mit meiner alten GeForce GT 220 lief selbst die neue Version 5.7 einwandfrei, nur halt eben leider etwas ruckelig. Nach dem Upgrade auf die Radeon Karte mit neuester Catalyst Treiberversion 11.11 stürzt das Programm regelmäßig nach dem Laden der Szenerie ab. Manchmal dauert es 5 Sekunden, in der Regel friert Aerofly jedoch sofort ein.

Hier meine tm.log Datei:

tmmodule: (7 modules) (tmatmosphere,1) (tmsystimer,1) (tmrandom,2) (tmfile,4) (tmwinjoystick,10) (tmwinogl,10) (tmopenal,20)
tmmodule: init modules=(tmsystimer=ok) (tmrandom=(seed=409349417) ok) done
tmsyswin: Program version 5.7.1.1
tmsyswin: Library Version 5.6, Copyright (C) 1999-2011, IPACS
tmsyswin: http://www.ipacs.de
tmsyswin: memory=(physical=8119MB, avail=0MB) (virtual=6469MB, avail=0MB) (16236 in use)
tmsyswin: operating system=Microsoft Windows 7 Version 6.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 7601) Service Pack: Service Pack 1 (Build 7601)
tmfile: loading tmfile 'config/main.mcf' = (4967 bytes) done
tmsyswin: fullscreen modes=(1152x864x16x60) (1152x864x16x75) (1280x768x16x60) (1280x768x16x75) (1280x800x16x60) (1280x800x16x75) (1280x960x16x60) (1280x960x16x75) (1280x1024x16x60) (1280x1024x16x75) (1360x768x16x59) (rj-1360x1024x16x60) (rj-1360x1024x16x60) (rj-1360x1024x16x60) (rj-1360x1024x16x75) (rj-1360x1024x32x60) (rj-1360x1024x32x60) (rj-1360x1024x32x60) (rj-1360x1024x32x75) (1366x768x16x60) (1400x1050x16x59) (1440x900x16x59) (1440x900x16x75) (1600x900x16x59) (1600x1200x16x60) (1680x1050x16x60) (1920x1080x16x60) (1920x1080x16x29)
tmsyswin: init window=(mdf=60Hz) (window=0x0x1920x1080) (client=1920x1080) (screen=1920x1080) (32bpp) (60Hz) (fullscreen)
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tmwinogl: (compiling test shader= ok) (version=4.1) (compatibility profile) (vendor=ATI Technologies Inc.) (renderer=AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series ) (version=4.1.11251 Compatibility Profile Context)
tmwinogl: opengl caps=(viewport=16384x16384) (texsize=16384) (texsize3d=8) (stencil=32) (texunits=16) (ps-texunits=0) (shading_language=4.10) (shader_max_vertex=16384) (shader_max_fragment=16384)
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tmwinogl: gl: reducing max texture size from 16384 to 8192
tmwinogl: gl: using depthmap texture array
tmwinogl:
tmopenal: init= (default=Generic Software) (0:Generic Software) (version=1.1) (1.1) ok
sim:
sim: FUNC RenderOpen BEGIN
sim:
tmxgltext: loading font (0) 'texture/fontbig.tff'=(512x256) (h=26) (nc=256) ok
tmxgltext: loading font (1) 'texture/fontbig.tff'=(512x256) (h=26) (nc=256) ok
tmxgltext: loading font (2) 'texture/console.tff'=(256x128) (h=15) (nc=256) ok
tmxgltext: loading font (3) 'texture/font.tff'=(2048x2048) (h=17) (nc=65535) ok
tminput: searching for input devices...(3)
win32usbinput: searching usb interface (0,0)=(radiointerface) 6f986960
tmwinjoystick: searching joysticks=(skipping IKARUS input)none
tminput: 1 devices found= (USB Interface #1) (6f986960)
tmmusic: (6 mp3 files found) (playlist = 0 songs)off
sim: loading scenery 'scenery//augsburg'...
tmscene: (8x8) (29x14) (r=5000.00) (sp=-0.16 -0.40 -29.37) (vp=-0.16 -0.40 1.63) (ambient=0.07 0.10 0.11) (diffuse=1.00 1.00 0.99) (sphereambient=0.19 0.20 0.20)
tmscene: (8x8) (29x14) (r=5000.00) (sp=-16.18 69.21 -23.14) (vp=-16.18 69.21 1.86) (ambient=0.07 0.10 0.11) (diffuse=1.00 1.00 0.99) (sphereambient=0.19 0.20 0.20)
tm_scenery_extras: found runway Asphalt
tm_scenery_extras: found corners: -24.83 -10.30 0.08, -21.99 -19.23 0.08, 53.83 4.86 0.13, 50.99 13.79 0.10,
tm_scenery_extras: found pivots: -15.60 -12.29 0.16, 41.52 5.86 0.16,
tm_scenery_extras: found directions: 0.95 0.32 0.00, -0.95 -0.32 0.00,
tm_scenery_extras: found runway Grass
tm_scenery_extras: found corners: -100.00 75.00 0.03, -88.00 45.00 0.22, 45.00 90.00 0.04, 32.00 119.00 -0.33,
tm_scenery_extras: found pivots: -74.00 67.00 0.20, 12.00 96.00 0.16,
tm_scenery_extras: found directions: 0.95 0.32 0.00, -0.95 -0.32 0.00,
tmxgltext: 146 textures using 124 MB
tmcollision: init = (tris=46675, 9708400 bytes) (-1292.71 -3385.56 -44.22 - 2274.59 1849.41 77.52) (time=0.15s)
tmcollision: (321 input objects) (1 base objects) (1 instance objects) (0 dynamic objects) (time=0.00s)
tmfile: loading tmfile 'config/scenery-augsburg.tmc' = (857 bytes) done
tmcollision: creating static collisionobjects quadtree = (objects=1) (-1292.72 -3385.57 -44.23) - (2274.60 1849.42 77.53)
tm_scenery_extras: Loading Spot Landing Geometry 'scenery/augsburg/spot_landing01.tgb'
tm_scenery_extras: Loading Spot Landing Geometry 'scenery/augsburg/spot_landing_heli.tgb'
tmscene: scene bounding box = (-91.05 -3385.56 -3.19) (2274.59 1849.41 13.84)
tmscene: max objects per cell = 253
tmscene: shadowmap = 2048x2048 sp=4 (10.00 43.00 185.50 800.00 0.00 0.00 0.00)
sim: done loading scenery (t=1.22s objects=315)
sim:
sim: windfieldinfo 0: resolution=1.00 min=(-500.00 -500.00 0.00) max=(500.00 500.00 100.00)
tmwindfield: Setup Windfield with origin = (-500.0, -500.0, 0.0), size_xy = (1000.0m, 1000.0m), Grid relation (x:y): 1:1, MipMapLevels: 10, Resolution: (1.0m, 1.0m)
tmwindfield: Windfield Map Load from file 'scenery/augsburg/windfield0.twd' successful
tmscene: statistics = (objects=334) (transparent=4) (graphics=15) (graphicsbb=0) (dynamic=0) (decals=0) (water=0) (tris=100) (shadow faces=0) (btrees=0) (trees=0)
tmfile: loading tmfile 'config/player0.mcf' = (2354 bytes) done
sim: loading model 'sbach342'...
sim: path='aircraft/sbach342' geometry='sbach342' physics='sbach342' paintscheme='' ...
tmmodelmanager: assigning controller to receiver
tmmodelmanager: model input channel Throttle Aileron Elevator Rudder Smoke
sim: done loading model (t=0.51s, n=64, id=15)
sim:
tmfile: loading tmfile 'config/player1.mcf' = (2306 bytes) done
tmfile: loading tmfile 'menu/settings.mcf' = (97683 bytes) done
tmmodelmanager: (0:airfoil) (1:airfoil) (2:airfoil) (3:airfoil) (4:airfoil) (5:airfoil)
tmmodelmanager: (6:airfoil) (7:airfoil) (8:airfoil) (9:airfoil) (10:airfoil) (11:airfoil) (12:airfoil) loading tmfile 'config/rc0-6f986960.tmc' = (73464 bytes) done
tmmodelmanager: assigning controller to receiver
tmmodelmanager: model input channel Throttle Aileron Elevator Rudder Smoke
tmmodelmanager: assigning controller to receiver
tmmodelmanager: model input channel Throttle Aileron Elevator Rudder Smoke
sim_update: connecting to server www.aerofly.com= FAIL(-13,39)
trackir: initializing trackir...
trackir: DLL Location key not presentTrackIR dll not found (dll location: 'Error')
tmxgltext: 484 textures using 223 MB
sim:
sim: FUNC RenderOpen END = 5.478503 sec
sim:
tm: calibrating radio deviations= 0 3 6 9 -16 25 -36 88
license: license: tml file 'af5-c010.tml' = C010 0000 0507 0101 'aerofly5' 'C010-6F986960.lic' (activated=1)

Wo liegt der Fehler?

[güpfl]

Ich habe die selbe Karte, aber keine Probleme mit Abstürzen. Trotzdem bin ich enttäuscht, weil ich mit dieser Karte und mit dem dazupassenden i7 Proizessor noch immer nicht die höchsten Grafikeinstellungen vornehmen kann. Bei Ultra ruckelt es gewaltig und die Frames liegen zwischen 15 und 30. Catalyst ist auf dem neuesten Stand. Übertakten habe ich versucht - hat nichts gebracht.

Vielleicht muss man an der Karte direkt Einstellungen vornehmen.

[Jet-Pack]

Catalyst ist auf dem neuesten Stand.

Welche Version hast du genau?
Viele hier im Forum haben das behauptet und es hat sich herausgestellt, dass Windows nicht die neuesten Treiber vorgeschlagen hat.

Grüße
Jan

[Jürgen N.]

Von blossem Auge ist zwischen "Ultra" und "Hoch" kein Unterschied festzustellen.
Am meisten bringt die Qualität bei "Bäume" etwas mehr Speed. Auch "Schatten" bringt etwas.
Am meisten "Wolken aus".
"4D" ist und bleibt "grenzwertig". ATI 6850
Untenstehende Version habe ich vor 2 Wochen installiert.
Gruss Jürgen

[Nordland]

@güpfl

Wie Jan schon schrieb,Treiber nicht per Windows suchen lassen.Immer direkt beim Hersteller schauen.

Aktuel ist es der Catalyst 11.12

AMD OpenGL 4.2 production support

· AMD Catalyst 11.12 delivers official support for the OpenGL 4.2 specification

AMD Eyefinity technology enhancements

· Enables support for AMD HD3D technology when using a 3x1 Landscape Eyefinity display group, on supported DisplayPort 3D monitors.


AMD Vision Engine Control Center enhancements for Dual Graphics

· Improvements have been implemented to better facilitate the enabling and control of the Dual Graphics within the Vision Engine Control Center

RESOLVED ISSUES

Resolved Issues for the Windows 7 Operating System:

This section provides information on resolved known issues in this release of the AMD Catalyst™ 11.12 software suite for Windows 7. These include:

All required PAL formats are now correctly listed in the Vision Control Center on the HDTV support page.
Playing Dirt2, Dirt3 and Portal2 in DirectX 9 mode no longer causes a random system hang.
Portal 2 no longer displays random screen tearing when run in DirectX 9.
Total War Shogun 2 no longer displays random corruption when played at low in game settings and 2x1 and 3x1 Eyefinity modes.
Playing Lost Planet 2 in Eyefinity mode and Crossfire enable no longer randomly crashes.
Portal 2 will no longer randomly crash when the GPU is switched to Low Power mode.
Running Stalker Clear Sky in DirectX 10 mode in a Tri-Crossfire configuration no longer randomly hangs when in-game settings are set to high.
Tom Clancy Endwar no longer randomly hangs with a pinstripe display.
Playing Enemy Territory Quake Wars no longer generates a random system hang.
Graphics corruption is no longer randomly exhibited while playing video clips using Windows Media Center.
Doom 3 no longer experiences random corruption when Anti Aliasing is enabled.
Crysis 2 no longer displays random flickering when run in DirectX9 mode.
Far Cry2, Dragon 2, Homefront, Stalker: Metro 2033 and Bioshock 2 no longer display random flashing textures.
Left 4 Dead 2 no longer experiences random hangs.
HAWX2 no longer experiences random hangs when navigating in game menus.
Lost Planet 2 and Dragon Age 2 no longer display random flickering when run in DirectX 9 mode.


Resolved Issues for the Windows Vista Operating System:

This section provides information on resolved known issues in this release of the AMD Catalyst™ 11.12 software suite for Windows Vista. These include:

Random ghosting is no longer observed while playing Dragon Age 2 in Crossfire mode.
Character Avatars no longer flash in Dragon Age 2 in Crossfire mode.
Stalker – Clear Sky no longer displays random black horizontal lines on initial startup.
Playing Tom Clancy HAWX 2 in Eyefinity mode no longer generates a random system reboot.
Random choppy Flash playback is no longer experienced.
Running Civilization V in DirectX 11 mode no longer crashes randomly when run at medium and high in-game settings.
F1 2010 no longer hangs intermittently on launch.
Flashing textures are no longer randomly observed while playing Bulletstorm.
Dead Space 2 no longer hangs randomly.


mfg
Sven